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In Get Started With The Traktor Kontrol S8, Pt 1, we looked at how the new flagship controller from Native Instruments works with your music files, and in Part 2 we looked at external inputs and wiring everything up. In this, the third part of a five-part series, we’re looking at how you can adjust your beatgrid on the fly. Below is the background info you need to make the most of this lesson, and the video training itself is at the bottom of the article.
What are beatgrids?
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A beatgrid is a uniform grid (think a “ruler”) laid along your track, with its first “marker” on the first beat of the first bar, and the other markers evenly laid out, one per beat, all the way through the track. It allows the software to accurately calculate autoloops, rhythmic effects (think echo and delay), beatjumps, and overall to accurately tie each deck to the master tempo, meaning when you hit “sync”, things do truly sync up.
And while vinyl and CD DJs used to using just two music sources may question whether all of this is really necessary (after all, to manually beatmatch two sources soon becomes intuitive, why bother with all this beatgridding stuff?), actually, as soon as you introduce more music sources, and definitely as soon as you start adding a Remix Deck or two, this all becomes essential. Indeed, the Traktor Kontrol S8, and to an extent the way Native Instruments envisages the whole Traktor ecosystem should operate, kind of demands you bite the bullet and start beatgridding your tunes.
Sync between TRAKTOR DJ and TRAKTOR (SCRATCH) PRO 2. For this reason, Metadata Sync has been removed from TRAKTOR (SCRATCH) PRO 2 on Windows and Mac OS X. While Metadata Sync between iOS devices with TRAKTOR DJ remains fully functional, you cannot sync metadata with the Mac and PC version of TRAKTOR anymore.
The problem with beatgridding
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Still, it’s hard work. There are even services out there that’ll do it for you, such is the resistance among some DJs to sitting there with their pile of 50 new tunes, painstakingly checking the beatgrid so all is OK for their looming gig. And if you get to a gig and discover an issue with a beatgrid (this usually happens when you hit “sync” and it doesn’t work right), adjusting that beatgrid there and then is fiddly: you have to dial up a panel on screen in Traktor and revert to the trackpad and/or keyboard and do some pretty intricate stuff. Not what you want mid-set…
The new workflow
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That’s where the Traktor Kontrol S8’s onboard screen and beatgridding controls come in. They’re so intuitive, you can sometimes use them on the track that’s actually playing, never mind the one you’re cueing up to play next! So here’s how it works:
- You ensure Traktor is set to automatically “best guess” the beatgrid for your tunes when it analyses them for BPM etc. That means that each track at least has a beatgrid to start with, and most of the time this will be spot on
- On loading a track you haven’t played before in your set (and that you haven’t had time to check the beatgrid of ahead of time), you do some simple visual checks of its beatgrid. If it looks like it may need a little tweaking, by using a few simple checks and adjustments right there on the deck screen and using the knobs and buttons of your S8, you adjust the beatgrid to get it perfect (there’s a knob that lets you check the beatgrid later in the track without affecting the audio – great for the track that’s actually playing…)
- You hit “lock” to lock the beatgrid, and just as importantly, to tell you that you’ve manually checked that particular track, for next time
Job done – ready to mix! Once you’re up to speed, the above can take between a second (when the beatgrid clearly needs no work) and 30 seconds (when it’s been read incorrectly and needs a lot of fiddling), but it’s infinitely more practical and intuitive than having to adjust it all in the software on your laptop mid-gig – and the S8 with its screens and dedicated beatgrid controls makes it all possible.
What to do next
Firstly, if you’re not sure you understand beatgrids, definitely read the chapter in the Traktor software manual first to get up to speed on it all.
Then, watch the video to learn how to adjust existing beatgrids while DJing. Remember, if your music hasn’t been auto-beatgridded for some reason, get it all analysed by Traktor now so you have something to work with when you get to your gig (or when you do this ahead of time) – the onboard controls aren’t designed for the initial beatgridding, just adjusting what’s already there. Good luck!
The tutorial video
Check out the other parts in this series:
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Got any specific questions about the Traktor Kontrol S8, beatgridding or otherwise? Want to add anything to this tutorial’s info? Please feel free to do so in the comments.
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- I have recently migrated my dj software of choice from Win 7 PC to Macbook Pro (Mavericks).
I have fixed most of the issues and inconsistencies in my database.
Although i still have some issues, namely:
– Beatgrids of many songs are off
– Cue Points of many songs are offSince i have over 20,000 songs in my audio database, i really do not want to fix them one-by-one.
Can smb recommend a good Mac software for fixing beatgrids in large music databases?Thanks!Beatgridding is one of those things that is proprietary in DJ software. It’s one of the things that defines DJ software and companies keep the way they do their beatgridding close to their chest.Traktor for example works great with EDM/electronic beat music, but frankly, imho, sucks at working with less tightly drummed material. Serato and Mixvibes Cross on the other hand have great flexible beatgridding and allow for you to tighten up just about any track. Don’t know about VDJ because I haven’t used it since version 3 😀 .Beatgridding therefor is not a general technique, let alone standardized.If you are saying that you had cue points (do you really mean cue points or hot cues that you set manually or are you talking about load points, the point a track is cueued up to when loaded into a deck and is set automatically by the software?) and they are now off, that seems to be a VDJ problem. If your database was good under windows and now it’s shot under Mac OSX, that seems to be a really bad consequence of you migrating platforms and you should be in touch with VDJ people about this.I am gonna take a wild stab at things and say that what you mean is that you didn’t have this in order for 20.000 tracks on Windows and it still isn’t in order now that you are on Mac.My comments and thoughts on that (just me of course):
1) There is no software that will do what want. Beatgrid info can only be used in the softwware you beatgridded in.
2) If your DJ software gets the beatgrid wrong, the only way to fix it is manually.
3) Depending on your DJ software fixing it is easy and fun, hard and cumbersome or even impossible (like fixing non-lineair beats in Traktor)
4) You have too many tracks in your main collection (about 2,000 sounds about right and you have 10x that). Nothing wrong with having more (mobile DJs typically have 20,000-40,000 tracks for request purposes), but you don’t want/need to beatgrid everything.
5) Get off your lazy butt! LOL. Start doing the work my man. Even in this day of advanced technology some things are a manual labor (of love). Also by beatgridding and setting hot cues and loops and such you gain intimitate knowledge of your (key) tracks. This will make you an unmeasurably better DJ.
6) Be proficient in manual beatmatching. Once you are comfortable doing that, it really don’t matter to much if you run into a track that isn’t or can’t be (maybe 20% of tracks are near impossible to grid properly or without too much work) beatgridded, you won’t be fazed but just do it manually and be done with it. This is also true when transitioning from one DJ to another or when being presented with music on memory stick or CD or just when playing on some older CDJs (without sync).
7) The point where a track is cueued up to when loaded is usually dependant on the volume level (it needs to be louder than a certain level to be recognised by your software as having started) and things like snap make sure it cues the track to the first beat over the treshold (or even first downbeat).So, long story short: select your top 1,000-2,000 tracks for your core collection, run them through the beatgridding and cue point setting process and guard these tracks with your life (i.e. make back-ups!). Assuming about 60% will be right, that leaves 400 to 800 tracks needing work. Let’s say 5 minutes per track average (can be done quicker once you get more experienced in it). That’s 2000 to 4000 minutes. Roughly 35 – 70 hours of work. Say 10 hours a week and in 1-2 months you will have your stuff in serious order. Think you will value your music collection more then? You bet! Think you’ll feel good about yourself and having done the grind? Seriously yes! Think your knowledge of the core collection has risen? A lot! Think it will make you a better DJ? I almost guarantee it.Hope that helps.First off, sorry that I misunderstood. I rectract parts of my words and by all means stay on your (not so lazy) ass 😀In my opinion, you either didn’t migrate the beatgrid/cue info, or – as I said before – something has gone wrong in the migration and the problem really sits with VDJ.I really don’t recall anything about software that can batch process beatgrids, specifically since beatgrid (and cue point) info is usally kept in a proprietary database belonging to/with the DJ software.I don’t know how VDJ does it, but Traktor has a seperate folder where it keeps all the files that contain proprietary information (like beatgrids, waveforms, cue points). Mixvibes has something called Peak Folder that has that kind of information. It is different from the collection file! and you need to have both migrated. I am sure Serato and VDJ have something similar.So when you migrate, it isn’t enough to move your tracks over, you have to move those folders too and make sure the software is pointed to their correct new location (folder naming is different on mac than it is on PCs).Please let us know what you did when you migrated so somebody with more VDJ knowledge might help you out some more.When you now load a new track now, does VDJ take time to analyze it?If it does, then perhaps you have not copied over your database settings.
I’m on Windows, and I’ve kept all my tracks sorted by type and genre, and kept them in one master folder. Just outside the master folder, VDJ has created a .xml file (I can’t remember the name, but it said something like “Virtual DJ Database.xml”) or something similar.That was for Windows. I don’t know if the Mac version does the same. Try asking on the VDJ forums.There are also the Google Pixel Buds, which provide real-time translation in your ear, but they only work with the Google Pixel and they'll set you back $129. If you're looking for a free option, Voice Translator from Alive Mobile is an improvement to Google Translate and other similar apps, by allowing you to effectively turn your iPhone into an instant interpreter. Real time auto tune for iphone 6. My real-time playback using DIRAC2 does automatic pitch correction, and it works fine as per my post above. DIRAC3 came out recently which is supposed to be even more CPU efficient, though I haven't used it yet. – Kevin Jan 4 '11 at 16:21. Nov 16, 2013 Auto-Tune Mobile conforms to the Inter-App Audio (IAA) standard so you can use Auto-Tune with your other IAA apps. Notice when using with GarageBand that the Auto-Tune filter takes effect as you record the track. If you want to pitch correct a pre-existing vocal you will need to replay it outside of GarageBand. Auto-Tune Realtime Advanced is the gold standard for Auto-Tune on UA. With Classic Mode, real-time MIDI control, advanced vibrato features, and Flex-Tune to. Nov 06, 2019 4. Auto- Tune Mobile iPhone. This app provides you feature of auto pitch effects. This is real time voice processing app which will combines automatic tuning, harmony and vocoding. It also allows you to share your recording in audio and also in video. It has more features also. Tuner and metronome Android.Sorry m8, as I said I don’t use VDJ and can’t help you any further. Hopefully the VDJ support people WILL come up with an answer/solution for you.You’ve just discouraged me towards owning a Mac ðŸ™x81Don’t see why that is Cheeku. The OP has a problem after migrating his VDJ collection from PC to Mac. Auto tune on garage band. It could have just as easily happened the other way around.I have gone back and fro between Mac and PC a few times and actually had both in use at the same time at one point (been a while, but had a Traktor setup then with everything on my external HD).Hard to tell in hindsight, but somewhere something went wrong, if this was a VDJ issue (some kind of file or rights incompatibility) or user issue (making some – minor – mistake he wasn’t aware he was making), but it most decidedly, imho, has nothing to do with the Mac platform.I use my Mac only for DJ-ing. All my other computers and laptop are still windows and will most likely stay that way, but I have to say that it is very well suited for DJ-ing.Just my two cents.I think what happened was that, to VDJ, your files are in a different place and aren’t the same files. I use it on windows and i would check in the config menu to check and fix the database. Make sure you back up the file first just in case. Let me know what happens.
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